From: officialflagrant
The discussion around gender dynamics often centers on the interplay between biological impulses and societal expectations. It is suggested that individuals frequently attribute inconvenient truths or desires to societal pressures rather than biological realities, seeking to “remove the stigma” from aspects of life they find challenging [02:02:51].
Biological vs. Societal Impulses
A core aspect of the gender conversation revolves around distinguishing between biological and societal influences on behavior [02:02:30]. It’s argued that people tend to blame societal factors for inconveniences in their lives [02:02:51].
For instance:
- Physical Attraction: A man of shorter stature might blame society for women preferring taller men, suggesting the societal stigma against short men should be removed [02:03:10]. However, a biological or evolutionary impulse might lead women to feel safer and more protected by a taller, bigger male [02:03:20].
- Promiscuity: Women engaging in promiscuous behavior might attribute societal judgment to societal norms, advocating for a “fairer” society [02:03:39]. Yet, it’s proposed that men might biologically be disinclined towards promiscuous women due to millions of years of selective mating, where knowing the paternity of offspring was crucial [02:04:18]. This highlights that “biology ain’t fair” [02:03:58].
It is acknowledged that while society has progressed and allows for more choices (e.g., women using technology to prevent unwanted pregnancy), overcoming millions of years of genetic evolution is a significant challenge [02:07:02]. The argument then becomes how much is determined by biology versus societal conditioning, with individuals often making that decision based on what is most convenient for their own lives [02:08:04].
Impact of Societal Dynamics
The “Manosphere” and Overcorrection
In response to feminism, particularly “ultra feminists,” there has been an “overcorrection” in the form of movements like the “manosphere” [02:00:30]. Young men, feeling unrepresented in the broader gender discussion and the emotional complexities of modern relationships, may turn to prominent figures like Andrew Tate or Kevin Samuels for guidance [02:00:30]. When a void exists in dialogue, the loudest voice often gains an audience, even if it lacks nuance [02:01:06].
Inequalities Faced by Men
It is noted that there are unacknowledged inequalities against men. For example, in custody disputes, a father might not gain custody of his children even if the mother is abusive [02:01:36]. This perceived unfairness can push individuals towards “snake oil salesmen” who promise answers and solutions [02:01:45]. When frustrated, people tend to overlook the dubious aspects of a speaker if that speaker validates their feelings [02:01:53].
Challenges in Discussion
The current climate of “cancellation” stifles nuanced discussion [02:12:10]. When alternative ideas, even non-extreme ones, are not tolerated, the “pendulum” of discourse swings to extremes [02:13:00]. This leads to a situation where only the most extreme voices, who do not fear consequences, are heard [02:13:50]. This creates a cycle where people are drawn to anyone who echoes their unheard sentiments, regardless of the person’s character [02:14:00].