From: officialflagrant

The discussion delves into the public personas, controversies, and artistic impact of both Drake and Kanye West, with a particular focus on Kanye West’s controversial statements and alleged influence.

Kanye West’s Public Persona and Controversies

Kanye West’s Use of the Black Community It is suggested that Kanye West is currently “using the black community” [00:00:02]. This perspective implies that Kanye West leverages the community for his own benefit, much like a “side chick” who gains attention during a main relationship’s turmoil [00:40:20].

Controversial Statements and Backlash Kanye West’s controversial statements, such as his comments regarding George Floyd’s death, are highlighted [00:23:09]. These statements often lead to significant backlash, including his cancellation by Adidas, which he initially believed wouldn’t happen [00:40:00]. Despite public outrage, some individuals, particularly those who distrust mainstream narratives, view Kanye West as a “hero” for challenging the establishment [02:22:03]. The podcast hosts recall roasting Kanye West during a previous episode [00:19:00].

Mental Health and Desire for Control The consensus is that Kanye West is dealing with mental illness [00:39:16]. It is also suggested that Kanye West possesses an “innate urge to try to create a cult” and seeks “complete control” over his audience, rather than just financial gain [00:41:01].

Business Relationships and Financial Impact Concerns about Kanye West’s financial stability and business relationships, including his banking issues with JP Morgan, are discussed [02:26:31]. It’s speculated that his bank account deletion was related to his loans and equity, happening before his controversial tweets, although public perception links it directly to his statements [02:27:09]. Good Music’s separation from Def Jam, announced after the controversies, actually occurred earlier in 2021 [02:28:10].

Strategic Religious Conversion Kanye West’s conversion to Islam is viewed as a strategic move to align his ideals with a more traditional philosophy [02:12:00]. This is seen as a way to potentially deflect criticism, as critics might be less likely to attack Islam compared to Christianity [02:12:17].

Drake’s Public Persona and Music

Recent Music Quality and Sales Concerns are raised about the quality of Drake’s recent albums, with the speaker suggesting he has released “two weak albums” and needs to “drop a banger” [02:52:05]. His latest album with 21 Savage is anticipated to sell more than 200,000 units, but expectations are high for a stronger release to re-establish his standing [02:52:31].

Influence and Impact The impact of Drake’s diss track “Back to Back” on Charlamagne tha God is highlighted as an example of how artists like Drake can cement individuals into history through their music [01:52:21]. The phenomenon of “fake Drake” in Miami is also mentioned, indicating his widespread cultural presence [00:52:26].

Album Leaks The concern of album leaks for artists like Drake is noted as a significant issue, potentially affecting sales more severely than for artists like Taylor Swift [03:15:50].

Interactions with Other Celebrities

Kevin Durant Kevin Durant’s reaction to Kanye West’s public behavior is discussed, with the suggestion that rather than just commenting, Kevin Durant should use his influence to help Kanye West [02:32:46]. The speaker also mentioned attending a Nets game where Kevin Durant’s team lost, finding it “embarrassing” [02:33:32].

LeBron James LeBron James is cited as another example of a high-profile figure who comments on social media but perhaps doesn’t take further action, similar to the criticism leveled at Kevin Durant regarding Kanye West [02:34:45].

Charlamagne tha God Charlamagne tha God’s public persona as someone who “doesn’t tell jokes” to “tell the truth” is critiqued, suggesting he is indeed a comedian and his jokes should not be taken seriously [02:32:21].

The discussion emphasizes the complex relationship between fame, influence, and accountability in the modern entertainment landscape, especially for figures like Drake and Kanye West.