From: officialflagrant
This article explores various perspectives on religion and politics, drawing from a wide-ranging conversation that touches on historical figures, societal structures, and the impact of belief systems on global events.
Religion
Discussions around religion include the perceived “best” religions and the characteristics that define them, such as proselytizing.
Catholicism
Father Corby, a figure held in “great appreciation” for becoming the President of Notre Dame, was described as a “beast” who rebuilt the university after a fire, serving as its “second founder” [01:55:00] [02:02:00]. He was also noted for “giving everybody their last rides” during the Civil War, potentially at Fredericksburg [02:13:00] [02:15:00]. It is questioned whether priests like Corby would be respected and not shot at during the Civil War, especially by non-Catholics like the Japanese [02:22:00] [02:25:00] [02:45:00].
Nagasaki was historically a Catholic city [02:57:00].
In a discussion about the “best” religion, Catholicism is ranked as number one due to the Vatican’s influence and its role in inventing the Western World [25:10:00] [25:22:00]. This extends to Christianity as a whole, which is also considered number one [25:31:00] [25:42:00].
The Papacy
The Pope is considered infallible, though this view has changed due to disagreements and actions like shifting pedophiles [32:27:00] [32:31:00] [32:37:00]. Pope Francis, in particular, has caused some Catholics to “lose faith” due to statements on issues like dogs going to heaven and doubling down on climate change [30:40:00] [30:56:00] [31:00:00].
Islam
Muhammad is not worshipped in Islam, but he lived a “Godly life,” and his image is not to be drawn [26:23:00] [26:31:00] [26:34:00]. Jesus is mentioned more than Muhammad in the Quran [26:45:00]. Abrahamic religions, excluding Judaism, are noted for proselytizing [24:46:00] [25:02:00].
Relations between Muslims and other groups are complex:
- Jews: Muslims “don’t get along with Jews,” despite claims they “harbored” and “took care of” Jews [28:38:00] [28:42:00].
- Hindus: Hindus “don’t like Muslims” in India [24:56:00] [24:57:00].
- Internal divisions: The Ahmadiyya sect in Pakistan is not considered a valid sect of Islam, with people having to check a box on immigration forms acknowledging this [29:44:00] [29:51:00] [29:55:00].
Hinduism
Hindus do not proselytize [24:49:00]. The belief in a “second try” (reincarnation) makes Hindus “cool if people aren’t Hindu” [27:58:00] [28:00:00].
Judaism
Judaism does not proselytize [24:04:00] [24:06:00]. It is compared to a “country club” because one must be born into it to join [24:16:00].
Politics and History
The Civil War
The Civil War is debated regarding its primary cause:
- Some believe it was about “states’ rights” [08:54:00] [09:10:00].
- This perspective is challenged, arguing it was about “states’ rights to own slaves” [20:20:00] [09:20:00].
- Military figures like Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson are discussed [04:36:00] [04:53:00]. Stonewall Jackson is theorized to have been autistic due to his rigid adherence to orders and unusual habits [04:58:00] [05:15:00] [05:56:00].
Imperialism and Global Dynamics
British imperialism is critiqued for turning India into a “Walmart for 400 years,” focusing on the exploitation of “resources and humans” [09:47:00] [10:00:00] [10:10:00].
The concept of “Total War,” possibly invented by Napoleon, involved using the entire country’s industry and population for the war effort, a departure from more “gentlemanly” warfare [53:56:00] [54:07:00] [54:09:00] [54:26:00]. This concept potentially led to a drastic increase in war fatalities [54:40:00].
The idea of a World War III is discussed, with concerns that it would lead to widespread destruction and a return to “sticks and stones” for future conflicts [55:10:00] [55:17:00] [55:20:00].
Conspiracy Theories and Government Control
The assassination of JFK is attributed to the CIA, with theories suggesting Lee Harvey Oswald was a “patsy” and that multiple shooters were involved [02:09:00] [02:09:00] [02:10:00] [02:12:00] [02:12:00]. Woody Harrelson’s father, a convicted contract killer, is implicated in the plot due to his alleged CIA connections and a standoff claim [02:13:00] [02:14:00] [02:14:00]. The “Magic Bullet” theory is debunked, citing an unblemished bullet despite passing through the body [02:13:00] [02:14:00].
The CIA’s broader influence is discussed, including preventing the president from disbanding them and their role in influencing political outcomes in other countries (e.g., “banana republics” for corporate interests) [02:16:00] [02:16:00] [02:17:00] [02:18:00]. This power is seen as a way to “protect American interest for the next hundred years” [02:17:00].
Regarding political figures, a connection is claimed between Hinckley (who shot Reagan), George H.W. Bush (who would have become president if Reagan died), and Barack Obama, through distant family relations [02:21:00] [02:22:00] [02:22:00] [02:23:00]. This is presented as a “smoking gun” for a hidden force controlling American politics, though it’s dismissed as “gibberish” due to the distant relationship [02:23:00] [02:24:00] [02:24:00].
There is a discussion on whether a “secret cabal” of “legacy politicians” like Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell control decisions, or if they are simply part of a larger “machine” [02:17:00] [02:18:00] [02:18:00]. It is questioned if average citizens truly want to “run it every four years” or prefer someone else to “plot the course of America” [02:20:00] [02:20:00] [02:21:00].
Cultural Insights and Social Commentary
National Service
The idea of mandatory national service for every American is discussed, with the suggestion that it could be one year of non-military service, such as repairing national parks or working on the border wall [02:56:00] [02:57:00] [02:57:00] [02:58:00]. It is argued that this would help citizens “understand what the fuck is going on” and make a sacrifice to be part of the country [02:59:00].
However, the idea is also deemed “anti-American” if forced [03:01:00] [03:02:00] [03:04:00]. It’s suggested that it might be necessary for social harmony if society is polarized and facing an “imminent threat” [03:11:00] [03:12:00] [03:13:00].