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The ongoing conversation with John Vervaeke explores his YouTube series, Awakening from the Meaning Crisis [00:00:51]. This discussion delves into the historical philosophical shifts that have contributed to the meaning crisis [00:01:35].
Nietzsche’s Role in the Meaning Crisis
Friedrich Nietzsche is considered a pivotal figure in the meaning crisis, acting as a “prophet” of its focalization [00:03:30] [00:04:01].
The Proclamation “God is Dead”
When Nietzsche’s madman announces that “God is dead,” he isn’t speaking to Christians but to atheists [00:03:40] [00:04:18]. This statement signifies the end of humanity’s ability to make the worldview of the Axial Age intelligible and viable, including the experience of sacredness and directedness [00:04:23]. Nietzsche suggests that humanity has “cut the earth free from the sun,” leaving it “forever falling,” and must undergo a fundamental transformation to properly relate to this pivotal event [00:04:46] [00:05:02].
Complex Relationship with Nazism
Nietzsche’s influence on the Nazis is complex and should not lead to identifying him as a Nazi or proto-Nazi [00:02:25]. In fact, Nietzsche influenced existentialists, who were profound philosophical opponents of Nazism [00:02:38]. However, the Nazis did resonate with aspects of Nietzsche’s thought, such as his decadent romanticism and veneration of the will to power [00:02:48]. The core connection lies in Nazism being a pseudo-religious response to the meaning crisis [00:04:04].
Critique of Nietzsche’s Solution
From Vervaeke’s perspective, a significant shortcoming in Nietzsche’s philosophy is his failure to adequately address the “machinery for dealing with self-deception and essentially raising the capacity of the human” [00:05:46]. Vervaeke argues that Nietzsche essentially “just inverts what he’s criticizing” rather than breaking past it in a meaningful way [00:05:31]. Nietzsche’s thought, particularly his concept of the Übermensch and the “transvaluation of all values,” is seen as a secularization of Pauline Christianity, replacing divine love (agape) with the romantic notion of the will to power [00:06:14] [00:07:20].
The Politicization of Meaning and Pseudo-Religions
The 20th century witnessed the culmination of this philosophical trajectory in the clash of “two great pseudo-religious movements”: Marxism and Nazism [00:08:01]. These movements exemplified the “complete politicization of the quest for meaning” [00:08:37]. They proposed that the political arena was where the ultimate meaning of life and history would be resolved, with ideologies replacing the complex machinery of worldview attunement, religion, culture, ritual, and transformative practices [00:08:54].
Nazism, in particular, is described as a Gnostic response to the meaning crisis (“domicide”) in Europe, combining Gnosticism with decadent romanticism [00:10:44]. This led to dangerous ideas of an inherent “true self” and “master race” [00:11:00] [00:11:09]. These pseudo-religious ideologies led to immense trauma in World War II, a lesson that some fear is being forgotten as modern societies return to mutually incompatible politicized worldviews [00:12:06] [00:12:33].
Beyond the Past: Cultivating Meaning
Despite the challenges, the Axial Age way of thinking still persists in popular culture [00:13:17]. However, turning back to the past, especially with “deleterious nostalgia,” is not the solution for the current “kairos” (a critical, opportune moment) [00:14:16]. Instead, the focus must be on moving forward [00:14:23].
The concept of “meaning cultivation” is proposed as a way to escape the limitations of both empiricism (blank slate) and romanticism (empty canvas for expression) [00:19:09]. This metaphor suggests an active engagement with meaning that acknowledges both internal action and external processes, similar to cultivating a plant [00:19:11]. This approach aims to re-engage with meaning in ways that avoid the non-functioning forms prevalent in modern culture [00:19:32].
The meaning crisis signifies that while traditional functionality is sought, it is often “beset by a kind of deleterious nostalgia” [01:14:10] [01:14:21]. Vervaeke argues that it’s insufficient to merely be atheistic; it’s crucial to understand the functionality of religion and then “replace it and renovate it and go beyond” to create something new [01:14:34].
This pursuit ties into the broader challenge of the metacrisis, requiring a more profound understanding and response to the meaning crisis to properly formulate effective solutions [01:30:07].