From: jimruttshow8596
The 2024 US election is viewed as a critical juncture, with concerns that another meaningful election may not occur if the current trajectory continues [02:51:00]. Both sides claim the other poses an existential threat [02:58:00].
Campaign Dynamics and Candidate Issues
The “blue team” is accused of “rampant cheating” and “election interference,” particularly through “illegitimate stagecraft” surrounding Kamala Harris [03:22:00]. It is suggested that another four years of the current administration could be “fatal” to the country’s capacity to govern effectively [04:02:00].
A theory is presented, citing Seymour Hersh, that Kamala Harris used the 25th Amendment as a threat to remove Joe Biden from the presidential race, but not from the office of president [04:15:00]. This, combined with ongoing nuclear brinksmanship with Russia, raises concerns about the US living without a clear commander-in-chief [04:34:00]. Harris is seen as complicit for not exercising the 25th Amendment after threatening it, and is deemed “unqualified” [05:22:00]. The “blue team” appears comfortable with this ambiguous leadership structure, despite constitutional concerns [05:51:00].
The Biden Debate and Harris Nomination
The early scheduling of the June debate, an unprecedented move for a final election debate before formal nominations [09:28:00], is seen by some as a calculated “setup” by Joe Biden’s managers. This theory posits they knew he couldn’t handle a contentious environment without a teleprompter, intending for his poor performance to “awaken” the rank and file to his mental decline [08:00:00]. Joe Biden, described as a “hard-headed Irishman,” then allegedly refused to leave until pressure from the Democratic party, possibly including Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama, forced him out, by which time it was too late for another candidate besides Kamala Harris [07:18:00].
However, it is suggested that the strategists who set up Biden might not have intended to seat Kamala Harris [11:06:00]. It’s speculated that Biden might have “embraced” Harris as payback for being forced out, making her the default choice [11:18:00]. The Harris campaign is reportedly facing internal polling showing her 10 points behind in the popular vote and needing to win Michigan and Pennsylvania for the office [11:45:00]. While a 10% popular vote victory for Trump is doubted [12:21:00], external and some internal polling suggest Harris is running down, with Trump currently positioned for an Electoral College victory similar to his 2016 win over Hillary Clinton (306 electoral votes) [12:38:00]. A popular vote lead of 1.5% for a Democrat might not be enough to win due to state-level vote distribution [13:00:00].
The “blue side” shows signs of “genuine desperation,” including Kamala Harris appearing on “Howard Stern Show” and Barack Obama’s recent public engagements [13:58:00]. Harris is considered a “terrible standin” for Joe Biden and was always a “lightweight” [14:40:00]. A mini-competition among Democrats would likely not have resulted in her nomination [14:56:00]. The Democratic party is characterized as a “racket” that has driven out “likable, decent people,” leaving a limited slate of candidates [15:23:00].
Gender and Racial Dynamics in Voting
There is a perceived “overestimation” by Democrats in their ability to “polish a turd like Kamala Harris” [16:03:00]. She is seen as unlikeable and gives off a “vibe that gives many of us the Willies” [16:15:00]. Her primary perceived assets are being “phenotypically attracted female and some version of not white” [16:26:00], raising concerns about identity politics over qualifications [16:34:00].
A political ad from the Democrats is noted, featuring “manly men” asserting that being a man means “not being afraid of women” and therefore voting for Kamala Harris [17:56:00]. The discussion connects this to a “very long trajectory involving feminism” that has impacted the Democratic party [18:42:00]. While first and second-wave feminism (equal opportunity, merit-based inclusion) are seen as noble [18:54:00], radical feminism’s push for 50/50 representation regardless of qualifications is rejected as “institutional sexism” [19:41:00]. The “overthrow of masculinity” by synonymizing it with “toxic masculinity” has resulted in an “incoherently feminine quadrant of the electorate” within the Democratic party [19:59:00]. It’s stated that men voting for the “blue team” are “falling down on their obligation as men” to protect and tell the truth [21:17:00]. Many “blue team” men may be defecting due to feeling they are not behaving honorably by subordinating themselves to “flat out wrong” ideas [21:52:00].
Obama’s recent warning to black men, who are showing significant support for “team red” (around 25% or more) [22:52:00], indicates an unprecedented potential shift in demographics [23:00:00]. This is linked to a “massive political realignment” [23:05:00], with Biden’s past comment, “if you’re not voting for me then you’re not really black,” highlighted as an “obscene stupid and insulting distortion” that serves as a “red pill moment” for people of integrity [23:12:00].
Voter Perspectives: The “Double Hater”
A “double hater” perspective is articulated, disliking both “team red” and “team blue” for distinct reasons [24:16:00].
Objections to Democrats (Blue Team)
- Oikophobia: Hatred of one’s own culture, evidenced by college campus sentiments and polling data showing young people hating America and Enlightenment values [24:32:00].
- Rising Anti-Semitism: Harvard polling showed 65% of 18-25 year olds agree that Jews are oppressors, compared to 8% of Boomers, attributed to “indoctrination by the blue church wokeness and neotribalism” [24:51:00].
- Unrealistic Climate Policies: While acknowledging climate change is real, Democratic policies are seen as “nutty,” such as Bernie Sanders’ 2020 platform to convert all transportation and electricity to renewables by 2030, deemed impossible even by Stalinist standards [25:20:00].
- Excessive Government Spending: Democrats are seen as the party of excessive government spending [26:20:00].
- Anti-Second Amendment Stance: [26:23:00]
- Weak on Free Speech: [26:26:00]
- Support for Hamas: Described as “Hamas lovers” and supporting “medievalist bunch of pre-enlightenment thinkers” [26:40:00].
Objections to Republicans (Red Team)
- Imposition of Religion: Relentless attempts to impose religion on the public, such as putting Ten Commandments in schools, growth of Christian nationalism, and repudiation of Enlightenment values like separation of church and state (e.g., Virginia Statute of Religious Freedom) [27:01:00].
- Cultural Control of Individual Behavior: Stance on abortion, right-to-die, and drug wars are viewed as religiously motivated “cultural imperialism” [27:44:00].
- Anti-Free Speech Tendencies: Banning books and mandating speech for medical practitioners [27:57:00].
- Climate Change Denial: Many Republicans are “flat out deniers,” with some politicians like Vivec Ramaswamy described as knowing it’s not a hoax but claiming it is [28:08:00].
- Naive Foreign Policy: Especially regarding Ukraine and Taiwan, with concerns that handing Ukraine to Putin would be a “world historical error” [28:28:00].
- Irresponsible Spending: Republicans are seen as “Big Spenders” who are even more irresponsible than Democrats because they cut taxes while increasing spending, contributing significantly to deficits (e.g., GW Bush and Trump tax cuts) [28:46:00].
Arguments for and Against Trump
It is argued that the current movement under the “red banner” is not the traditional Republican party but a “unity movement” [29:24:00]. Donald Trump’s innovation was pitching his campaign to “IQ 90 voters,” gaining support from those historically ignored by candidates who pitched to “IQ 110 voters” [29:43:00]. This has led to a “wholesale turnover in the constituency of the GOP,” bringing in working-class people who were “politically homeless” after being “cut loose by the Democrats and the Clinton Administration” [32:30:00]. The Republican party historically held a majority of college-educated voters but has seen a “precipitous” drop, while support among high school graduates and dropouts has risen [33:07:00].
The argument for voting for Trump is primarily “to vote against the regime” (status quo, “cathedral,” or “blue Church”) which is seen as “fundamentally anti-American” in culture and against the founders’ system of checks and balances [31:32:00]. This regime is accused of trying to overturn cultural traditions, indoctrinate children, and create an economy benefiting “symbolic manipulators and financial parasites” at the expense of working people [31:10:00].
Specific Advantages of a Trump Administration
- Withdrawal from WHO: Trump would “certainly” remove the US from the World Health Organization, which alone would be a sufficient argument to vote red [40:28:00].
- COVID-19 Investigation: His partnership with Bobby Kennedy on “make America healthy again” suggests a possibility of investigating what “took place during COVID” [41:05:00], which is seen as crucial to understanding governmental and institutional failures [41:17:00].
- Family Sovereignty and Gender Issues: A strong likelihood that the “fervor for cutting off the genitals and drugging healthy young people” under “gender Madness” would be “radically reduced” [42:08:00].
- Ukraine Policy: While acknowledging the disaster of Ukraine falling to Putin, the “belligerent way” the blue team acted is seen as having invited the conflict [42:38:00]. The “nuclear belligerence towards Russia and the debacle in Ukraine” are attributed to the “blue team’s doorstep” [43:36:00]. Concerns are raised about Ukraine being used by the “regime” as a mechanism to “loot the treasury” and funnel money untraceably [43:51:00].
- Carrington Event Risk: The blue team is criticized for acting “insane” relative to the Carrington event risk by sending the US stockpile of spare electrical transformers to Ukraine [54:05:00], which are essential for grid recovery after a major solar flare [53:52:00].
Criticisms of Donald Trump
- Personality Defects: Described as an “absolute ass clown,” a “despicable human being,” and a “pathological liar” who doesn’t understand the concept of truth [57:26:00].
- Narcissism: His actions are fundamentally driven by narcissism, not fascist power hunger [58:04:00]. This makes him easily exploited by “Trump Whisperers” who provide adoration, like Putin or Kim Jong Un [58:22:00].
- Short-Term Orientation: A narcissist is inherently short-term oriented, caring only about immediate “adoration from his folk” and not future reputation or long-term challenges [00:55:00]. This is seen as a “horrendously bad operating system for making decisions that weight the future” [00:41:00].
- Climate Change Denial: Trump’s stance on climate change and lack of a “careful, well-thought-out trajectory to carbon neutrality” is a significant concern [00:18:00].
- Ukraine Policy: There’s a risk Trump will attempt “trumpian magic negotiating” which, if unsuccessful, could lead to cutting off support to Ukraine [00:30:00].
Despite these criticisms, it is argued that a narcissist like Trump, if he desires to be remembered as a great man, might govern brilliantly to “serve the interests of the American people” and “show up his critics” [59:50:00]. His willingness to share the stage with figures like Bobby Kennedy is seen as a potential “falsification” of the simple narcissism model, suggesting growth or obscured positive characteristics [01:04:16]. If Trump were to bring in “highly competent, courageous, patriotic people” and delight in the reflected glory, it would be desirable outcome [01:05:03].
Broader Societal and Political Issues
- Political Polarization: The current system is seen as “so degraded” that it is difficult to know what the electorate thinks [13:45:00].
- Impact of Societal Values: The “cultural disparagement of rural people and working-class people by the blue Coast to Elites” is noted [35:20:00].
- Religion’s Role: While both host and guest are materialists, they observe that religious people have “resisted the temptations best on average” under the “assault of crass decadent late stage financialized capitalism” [36:33:00]. Religion is identified as an “adaptation and a key to human flourishing” [37:17:00], and its capacity to organize a community to “face down evil” is recognized [37:42:00]. The “death of the Abrahamic god” is seen as leaving a “huge hole in the spirit of Western person” that needs to be filled to maintain virtue and group coherence [38:03:00].
- Threats to the Grid: Both parties are criticized for ignoring the Carrington Effect (massive solar flare) [50:50:00], which could cause “total destruction of advanced technology” [50:53:00]. Defenses for this, costing around $400 billion, are described as “ridiculously simple technologies” (e.g., air gaps in the grid) [55:52:00], but neither party addresses it due to lack of intellectual depth [51:43:00]. This risk is increasing due to Earth’s weakening magnetic field [51:55:00] and an accelerating geomagnetic excursion [53:01:00]. A primary concern is that the “blue team sent our spare transformers to Ukraine,” exacerbating this risk [54:58:00].
The perspective of not casting a ballot until close to Election Day, remaining open to new information from “smart people,” is expressed [01:07:20]. The current “Bayesian prior” leans towards voting for the “blue team,” albeit with significant reluctance [01:08:35].